Bank of America Corporation (BAC) Q2 2018 Earnings Conference Call Transcript

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Bank of America Corporation (NYSE:BAC)
Q2 2018 Earnings Conference Call
July 16, 2018, 8:30 a.m. ET

Contents:

  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to today's Bank of America Earnings Announcement. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, you'll have the opportunity to ask questions during the question and answer session. You may register to ask a question any time by pressing *1 on your touchtone phone and withdraw yourself from the queue by pressing #. Please note this call is being recorded. It's now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Mr. Lee McEntire. Please go ahead.

Lee McEntire -- Senior Vice President of Investor Relations

Good morning. Thanks for joining this morning's call to review our second-quarter '18 results. By now, I hope everybody's had a chance to review the earnings release documents on the IR website of the bankofamerica.com site. Before I turn the call over to our CEO Brian Moynihan, let me remind you we may make forward-looking statements during the call. After Brian's comments, our CFO Paul Donofrio will review the details of the second-quarter results, then we'll open it up for questions. Please limit your questions and you can have a follow-up afterwards, but limit it to one question if you can. For further information on forward-looking comments, please refer to either our earnings release documents, our website, or the SEC filings that we post. With that, I'll turn it over to Brian.

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Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Lee, and thank all of you for joining us to review our second-quarter results. Continued solid client activity and a growing economy coupled with strong cost and risk management discipline resulted in a strong quarter result. Combined with Quarter 1, the earnings this quarter bring us to $13.7 billion in net income for the first six months. This is the best start to a year in the company's history, more than 20% higher than the previous record.

Driving responsible growth has resulted in consistent results for shareholders. It has enabled us to increase returns and support customer growth in the real economy and to continue to invest in our operational excellence. Net income for the quarter was $6.8 billion after tax, and it grew 33% from last year. Our return on tangible common equity was more than 15%. We delivered positive operating leverage for the 14th consecutive quarter.

We drove the efficiency ratio below 59%, an improvement of 249 basis points, in just 12 months. And, of course, while it's true that tax reform is benefiting our bottom line as well as corporations around America, income before taxes also grew and second-quarter reported pre-tax income improved 5% year over year, but after adjusting for some select items, which Paul is going to cover later, a better way to look at it is pre-tax income is up 11%.

Our balance sheet from both a capital and liquidity standpoint remains extremely strong. We announced following the June CCAR results in 2018 we plan on returning roughly $26 billion to you, our shareholders, over the next 12 months through a combination of share repurchases and dividends. This is a strong improvement from last year's initial CCAR approval in June of 2017, where we were approved to return $17 billion in capital. Our immediate priority remains to use capital to buy back shares that we don't need for business growth, but importantly, we increased our dividend by 25%.

Our responsible growth strategy continues to work, growing earnings returns and capital returns, and doing so the right way. This quarter, we demonstrated growth within our defined customer and risk framework, and we did it organically. When you think about it year over year, we grew average loans by more than 5% in the aggregate across the businesses. We grew average deposits by more than 3%. This quarter marks the 11th straight quarter where Bank of America has grown its average deposits more than $40 billion on a year-over-year quarter comparison basis.

We added more credit cards, we added more checking accounts on the consumer side, and we added more accounts and households in our Merrill Edge online brokerage. We also had a strong quarter in our wealth management business as we formed more households than we had in any quarter in the past.

Importantly, we see our small business clients borrowing more. We originated during the second quarter of 2018 alone $2.3 billion of loans to small businesses. This helps facilitate the core economy in its growth. We also see more in our business banking/commercial banking customers and continue to deepen relationships with them.

The other aspect is to make sure we stay within our risk framework. As you can see on Slide 2, credit continues to perform well, with a 43-basis-point net charge-off ratio this quarter. Since coming out of the crisis and stabilizing, we've now seen consistency over the last few years. In fact, the charge-off ratio has been below 50 basis points for 14 of the last 17 quarters.

In Global Markets, we continue to see a strong return on our lower-value risk metric than many of our peers, all while continuing to generate growth and improve profitability. We have earned a 15% return on capital in the Global Markets business year to date from Tom and the team. The other part of being sustainable is to invest while remaining efficient. We have to make investments in the communities we serve, investments in the talent in our company, and investments in our capabilities. By doing this, we believe we have a leading capability that will sustain us well into the future.

How do we afford all that? We afford it through operational excellence. We've been able to continue to invest and have our costs continue to come down. Investments in our teammates have resulted in a strong, stable talent pool of tremendously effective teammates and historic attrition levels are all-time historic lows. We continue to receive third-party accolades as one of the best companies for people to work.

If you move to Slide 3, when you put all that together, what happens? You get operating leverage. This slide shows you the 14th quarter in a row where we've had positive operating leverage in our company. On a linked-quarter basis, every business segment drove expenses lower from first quarter to second quarter even as they continued to invest.

But, people ask for examples of how all this works. How can you invest and develop capabilities while continuing to take down costs and continuing to have higher customer satisfaction? I think the easier way for people to visualize that is in our consumer digital banking capabilities. Many of you use them, and all of you should. By investing in client capabilities, we make our clients' lives easier, more efficient for them, more effective for them, and their satisfaction goes up. Our costs go down in turn, and because our process has become more automated.

So, how does that play out? Let's look at Slides 4 and 5. Here, we display the results, and typically, Paul will cover these as part of the Consumer Banking dialogue, but I think it's important to understand how responsible growth and driving sustainable operating leverage works. As you can see on the slide, you can see some of the results we've been making across decades to drive the business. The important thing is the size of our consumer base allows those investments to be leveraged. As you can see in the upper left-hand corner, we crossed over 25 million active mobile users this quarter. Another 10 million used other digital channels. So, that brings us to 35 million customers using digital devices this quarter on an active basis, and it continues to grow, as you can see, due to the innovation we have.

Those mobile users, as you can see below, logged into their mobile apps nearly 1.4 billion times this quarter. What are they doing with us? You can see that in some of the other boxes. While they do transactions, they also use them for communication. They're using their digital services to set appointments with our financial services for their convenience rather than just drop in. This ensures we have the right teammates to serve the customers well. We had a half million digital appointments this quarter, but that's still a lot of room to grow when you think of the 50 million customers we have that walk into our great stores every day, so it's critical to have both the digital and physical.

As you can see in the rollout of Erica, our digital assistant, you can do some tasks hands-free or text, and that increases your flexibility. You can see Erica has grown nicely to over 2 million Erica users from only starting a few months ago. Customers are doing more of their regular deposit transactions on their digital devices. This quarter, we saw more deposit transactions by a person taking a picture of the deposit and sending via mobile phone than we did by a person handing a check to the teller. In fact, 76% of all our deposit transactions are now through ATMs and mobile deposit. This allows for more meaningful relationship management activities to take place in our centers as we invest more and add more teammates to do that.

Customers just aren't transactioning and researching these capabilities, they're using them for sales. Digital sales now make up 24% of all our sales in our consumer business. This compares favorably with all sectors, including general retail, in terms of digital sales. As we move to Slide 5, you can also see that the adoption rate is moving faster for these newer products. New capabilities are taken up much faster by the customer base, who is completely digitally enabled.

On payments, you can see the early adoption of Zelle has grown. In the recent quarter, we processed more than 35 million Zelle transactions, or more than $10 billion principal amount. That's twice the pace of a year ago. We believe we account for about 25% of Zelle and its activity will continue to grow as the industry continues to drive this as our standard for P2P payments.

Overall, consumer digital payments have now overtaken non-digital payments. More than $368 billion in digital payments at the bottom of Slide 5 you can see. Over 52% of total payments have come in this quarter. This is growing 12% on average for the past four years. As you can see on sales, 24% of sales are executed digitally, and we continue to expand that through other products and services. Digital auto was launched a year ago. It is now more than half of retail auto volume. Digital mortgage, which is a true end-to-end digital experience just brought out recently, you can see is growing fast.

And, on investments in the lower right-hand side, you can see with the Merrill Edge growing assets 20% in the past year to $191 billion and 2.5 million accounts. We have parlayed that in our capabilities for our automated Merrill Edge guided investing platform. They can see the statistics.

So, these examples are just a set of examples about how the sustained investment, coupled with the change in customer behavior, coupled with the process improvement, coupled with the operating excellence, allows us to drive positive operating leverage while driving up customer delight. There are many other examples across our company, including Cash Pro in our commercial set of businesses, which has 475,000 commercial users. So, we'll continue to make these investments and continue to drive the operating leverage in the company, and that'll provide good utility for you, our shareholders. Now, let me turn it over to Paul to handle the financial results. Paul?

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Brian. I will start on Slide 6. Bank of America reported net income of $6.8 billion or $0.63 per diluted share. Net income was up 33% from Q2 '17. EPS grew 43%. Once again, our earnings growth was driven by strong operating leverage and continued strong asset quality in addition to the benefits of tax reform. Before I review comparative period performance, let me remind you of a few select items which I think are helpful in understanding our operating performance.

In Q2 '17, we had a net after-tax gain from the sale of our U.K. card consumer business of roughly $100 million, which included a revenue benefit of nearly $800 million in other income, mostly offset by a tax cost of nearly $700 million. So, revenue was $22.6 billion on a reported basis, down 1% versus Q2 '17. However, excluding the impact of the U.K. card gain, revenue was up 3% year over year, driven by NII improvement and better sales and trading results.

Another notable item in Q2 '17 was in expenses. We had a $300 million impairment charge associated with the sales from data centers, so expense of $13.3 billion on a reported basis was down 5% from Q2 '17, but excluding that charge, expenses declined 3%, or nearly $400 million. After excluding both of the Q2 '17 revenue and expense items, operating leverage was 6% and pre-tax income improved 11%, as Brian noted.

I would also note two items in our Q2 '18 results which had a combined negative pre-tax impact of roughly $160 million in other income. However, these items are not part of the select items adjusted for on this page and in our release. The first item was a charge of $729 million from the redemption of some trust-preferred securities. The second item was a gain of $572 million from the sale of some non-core mortgage loans. Net DBA negatively impacted the quarter by $179 million. Provision expense was $827 million, $101 million higher than Q2 '17, driven primarily by the seasoning of our credit card portfolio, loan growth, and a modestly lower reserve release.

Brian already covered the significant improvement in returns seen on this slide. The effective tax rate for the quarter was a little more than 20%, which includes the ongoing benefit from the Tax Act. We would expect the tax rate to be roughly 21% in the second half of 2018 absent unusual items.

Turning to the balance sheet on Slide 7, overall, compared with the end of Q1, end-of-period assets of $2.3 trillion decreased $37 billion, driven by lower Global Markets assets as well as lower deposit levels, primarily due to seasonal customer tax payments. Liquidity remained strong, with average global liquidity sources of $512 billion and a liquidity coverage ratio of 122%.

Total shareholders' equity decreased $2 billion from Q1. Preferred equity was down $1.5 billion in the quarter. If you look at the first half of the year, we issued $3.7 billion of lower-yielding preferred stock ahead of redemptions of $2.8 billion of higher-yielding preferred stock, and note we have called another $900 million that we'll settle in the third quarter.

Given a $1 billion decline in the value of AFS securities, which impacts OCI, common equity decreased by $0.5 billion as we returned 90% of net income earned in the quarter to our shareholders via dividends and repurchases. In Q2, we repurchased 166 million shares for $5 billion and paid $1.2 billion in common dividends.

Turning to regulatory metrics, this is the first quarter in which our RWA under standardized exceeds RWA under advanced. Standardized RWA decreased $8 billion from Q1 due to lower trading exposure in Global Markets and continued runoff of legacy mortgages. CET-1 capital was flat from Q1 as net income and lower DTA disallowance was offset by share repurchases, dividends, and OCI. Our CET-1 standardized ratio improved to 11.4% and remains well above our 9.5% requirement. The supplement-to-leverage ratio remains well above U.S. regulatory minimums.

Turning to Slide 8, on an average basis, total loans increased to $935 billion. Note that the Q2 '17 sale of U.K. card impacted the year-over-year comparisons by nearly $6.5 billion. Adjusting for the U.K. card balances, which were recorded in All Other, average loans were up $26.6 billion or 3% year over year. Total loan growth continued to be impacted by the runoff of non-core consumer real estate loans.

On the other hand, loans in our business segments were up $45 billion or 5% year over year. Our consumer loans grew 6% year over year as clients grew card balances 5% and mortgage originations across both Consumer Banking and wealth management were equally strong. While we are seeing good growth in originations of home equity loans, they continue to be outpaced by paydowns of older loans.

Commercial loans grew 5% year over year. Consumer optimism carried over into small business as we originated $2.3 billion in loans and grew balances 6%. Strong year-over-year growth in structured lending with wealth management clients also contributed to commercial loan growth. Competition for commercial loans remains intense. We're seeing aggressive terms in structure; however, we remained disciplined, and from a consistency standpoint, as you can see in the bottom right chart, loan growth in our business segment has been mid-single-digit consistently for several years now.

This chart compares year-over-year growth over the past five quarters. Our growth has been led by consumers, which is consistent with what we're seeing in the economy. The recent moderation in the consumer growth rate is driven mostly by auto loans given our decision to focus on organic growth and rely less on third-party flow. On the other hand, growth in consumer credit card has ticked up recently, and also note the modest increase in the growth rate in commercial. This has been driven by improvements in both small business and structured lending.

Before turning the page, I just want to mention deposits as we think about funding this growth. Average deposits grew $44 billion or 3.5% year over year. Consumer banking once again led, with growth of $35 billion or 5%. Deposits in wealth management declined from Q1, reflecting seasonal income tax payments and shifts to investments. Global banking deposits were strong, growing 8%, and included movement from non-interest-bearing to interest-bearing.

Turning to asset quality on Slide 9, total net charge-offs were $996 million or 43 basis points of average loans and increased as expected. We saw seasonally higher losses in credit card. Note that we are now more than 180 days past the storms which impacted many U.S. areas. The small storm-related card losses which came through in this quarter were previously reserved for. Provision expense of $827 million in Q2 included a $169 million net reserve release. This reflects continued improvement in our consumer real estate and energy portfolios. The increase in net charge-offs versus Q2 '17 was due primarily to credit card seasoning, loan growth, and the storm-related losses. Compared to Q1 '18, the increase was driven by commercial bouncing around the bottom.

Our reserve coverage remained strong, with an allowance-to-loan ratio of 1.08% and a coverage level 2.6 times our annual net charge-offs for the quarter.

On Slide 10, we break out credit quality metrics for both our consumer and commercial portfolios. With respect to consumer, net charge-offs of $830 million were flat compared to Q1 '18 and up $79 million from Q2 '17. As mentioned, the driver of the year-over-year increase was credit card, which increased to 3.17% due to seasoning and growth as well as storm-related losses. Excluding the storm-related losses, the credit card loss rate increased 22 basis points from Q2 '17.

Consumer NPLs of $4.6 billion declined 5% from Q1 and 47% of our consumer NPLs remain current on their payments. The commercial loss rate excluding small business remained strong at 9 basis points. While up from a low level in Q1 '18, commercial losses continued to remain low. Other commercial asset quality metrics continued to improve as reservable critical exposure was down $1 billion from Q1 and NPLs declined 5%.

Turning to Slide 11, net interest income on a GAAP, non-FTE basis was $11.65 billion, $11.8 billion on an FTE basis. Compared to Q2 '17, GAAP NII is up $664 million or 6%, reflecting the benefits of higher interest rates as well as loan and deposit growth. This growth is even more impressive given Q2 '17 included $140 million of NII from the U.K. card business, which we sold in June of last year.

Note we have presented the net interest yield excluding the impact of net interest income and related assets associated with our Global Markets segment. These assets, resulting from client financing and trading activity, generally are shorter-term and have a lower net interest yield and core banking asset. The net interest yield excluding Global Markets increased 12 basis points year over year to 2.95%, driven by broad improvement in asset yields relative to funding costs.

Moving back to total NII, Q2 GAAP NII increased modestly versus Q1, as the benefits of higher interest rates and one extra day was offset by seasonal client activity in Global Markets and seasonal paydowns of credit card loans. An increase in three-month LIBOR rates from Q1 '18, which impacts the cost of our long-term debt, also negatively impacted the comparison.

With the expected deposit pricing, rate paid on total interest-bearing deposits rose 7 basis points from Q1 and is up 32 basis points versus Q4 '15, which was the beginning of this Fed rate hike cycle. That compares to an average Fed funds rate, which is up 27 basis points and 151 basis points respectively from Q1 '18 and Q4 '15. So, to date, in this cycle, we have pass-through on interest-bearing deposits roughly 21% of the increase in Fed funds.

Turning to asset sensitivity, as of 6/30, an instantaneous 100-basis-point parallel increase in rates is estimated to increase NII by $2.8 billion over the subsequent 12 months. This is modestly lower than our sensitivity on 3/31, driven by cash deployed to securities, which increases future NII. Note that the short end represents about 70% of this sensitivity.

Okay. Turning to Slide 12, we had another solid quarter of expense management, extending our record of year-over-year quarterly decreases in expense to 14 out of the last 15 quarters. Non-interest expense of $3.3 billion was down $698 million or 5% year over year. As I mentioned earlier, Q2 '17 included roughly $300 million in impairment associated with data centers that we sold, so, excluding that charge, expense still declined nearly $400 million or 3% with broad improvements across most categories, and I would emphasize that we achieved this reduction while continuing to invest in new technology, new financial centers, and sales staff.

With respect to sales professionals, we continue to add relationship bankers in consumer, business banking, and commercial, as well as financial advisors in wealth management, and notably, despite adding sales professionals, our headcount is down roughly 3,000 from last year as we reduce non-client-facing roles by streamlining how we work and deliver for customers. During the quarter, we also onboarded more than 2,500 summer interns. These interns were selected from nearly 50,000 applicants. This year's class is our most diverse group ever. For example, women make up 45% of these interns, and 55% are ethnically or racially diverse.

Turning to the business segments and starting with Consumer Banking on Slide 13, another great quarter for this business as client balances grew, revenues increased, and expenses were down. Key metrics suggest a healthy consumer and a strong U.S. economic growth. Jobs and wages are improving, tax reform put more money in consumers' pockets, and equity markets are healthy in creating wealth. These types of improvements are fueling higher spending and more borrowing, and we believe we are gaining share and deepening relationships in this growing economy.

Earnings in Consumer Banking increased to $2.9 billion, returning 31% on allocated capital. This is the 12th consecutive quarter that earnings in Consumer Banking have increased year over year. Consumer Banking created over 850 basis points of operating leverage this quarter as revenue grew 8% while expenses were down. The efficiency ratio has improved more than 400 basis points in the past 12 months and is now below 48%. Year over year, average loans grew 7%, average deposits grew 5%, and Merrill Edge brokerage assets grew 20%.

As rates rose -- and, given our solid growth in client balances -- the value of our deposits drove an 8% improvement in revenue year over year. Cost of deposits, which reflect non-interest expense as a percent of average deposits, improved to 155 basis points. Rate paid remained at 5 basis points. Net charge-offs increased $105 million from Q2 '17 as our credit card portfolio grows and continues to season. Net charge-off ratio remained low at 128 basis points, up only 7 basis points from Q2 '17. Provision expense increased $110 million from Q2 '17, in line with the increase in net charge-offs.

Turning to Slide 14 and key trends, looking first at revenue, we believe relationship deepening is driving improvement in revenue, predominantly NII. This quarter, our revenue growth of 8% year over year included a $0.11 growth in NII as well as higher revenue in card income and service charges. Spending levels on debt and credit cards were up 8% year over year, driving the increase in card income. Service charges grew modestly. Customer satisfaction in Consumer Banking reached a new high, with roughly 81% of our clients rating us 9 or 10 on a 10-point scale.

Focusing on client balances on the bottom of the page, we continued to grow deposits, loans, and brokerage assets. With respect to loans, in addition to growth and residential mortgage, card balances grew 5% year over year and Merrill Edge assets grew 20%. Edge offers customers a lot of value and is a great way for us to deepen relationships. Whether it is access to one of our 4,000 licensed advisors and a world-leading research platform or how integrated Edge is with other banking needs, we think customers are noticing and giving us more of their investment dollars.

Expenses were down slightly compared to Q2 '17 as productivity improvements more than offset the continued investment in financial center renovations and technology initiatives. We continue to modernize financial centers and add new ones. This quarter, we opened 13 new financial centers and renovated another 65.

Okay, turning to Global Wealth and Investment Management on Slide 15, GWIM produced another quarter of solid results, nearing the record $1 billion of net income earned in Q1 and producing the second-highest pre-tax margin ever at 28%. Strong client activity and a healthy equity market coupled with solid expense management all benefited the results. Growth in households and deepening of relationships is helping offset industry dynamics driven by consumer behaviors.

Strong AUM flows and market appreciation increased AUM balances, driving a 10% increase in asset management fees. This was offset by lower brokerage revenue and modestly lower NII. The NII reduction from Q2 '17 reflects lower deposit levels as well as higher rate paid on deposits. Additionally, brokerage revenue decreased as volumes declined and mix shifted toward fee-based products. As a result of this shift, the percentage of GWIM revenue derived from annuitized revenue streams has increased over the last year to more than 85%. The business managed costs well, creating operating leverage.

Moving to Slide 16, we continue to see strong overall client engagement in Merrill Lynch and U.S. Trust. Our local market strategy, led by 93 market presidents, is helping to better integrate our lines of business and deepen relationships, especially in wealth management. Merrill Lynch advisors reacted constructively to our 2018 compensation program, which incentivizes household and other types of responsible organic growth. Merrill Lynch's organic household acquisition has not been this high for at least five years.

Competitive advisor attrition remains near historic lows. Year-over-year client balances rose to record levels of nearly $2.8 trillion driven by higher market values, solid AUM flows, and continued loan growth. AUM balances, which have climbed to over $1.1 trillion, are up $110 billion versus Q2 '17, with flows contributing $74 billion of that increase. Average loans of $161 billion grew 7% year over year with continued strength in consumer real estate and structured lending.

Turning to Slide 17, Global Banking earned just over $2 billion, growing 16% from Q2 '17 and generating a 20% on allocated capital. Revenue was down 2% from Q2 '17 as an increase in NII from traditional corporate banking activities and higher rates was more than offset by lower investment banking fees and the impact of tax reform with respect to tax-advantaged investments. Absent the impact of tax reform, the business would have created modest revenue growth and operating leverage.

IBCs of $1.4 billion for the overall firm declined 7% year over year, driven by lower advisory fees from a record quarter a year ago. Expenses were relatively flat versus Q2 '17 despite our continued investment in additional client-facing professionals to enhance local market coverage. Global Banking average loans grew 3% and deposits 8% year over year.

Looking at trends on Slide 18 and comparing to Q2 last year, with respect to average loans, 3% growth was led by corporate banking, lending, and international regions. Core loan portfolio spreads were down 5 basis points year over year and 1 basis point versus Q1. Loan growth was solid and reflects the current economic environment but remains very competitive. Average deposits rose $23 billion or 8% compared to 2Q '17 as we maintain a targeted pricing approach to acquire and retain high-quality deposits.

Switching to Global Markets on Slides 19 and 20, I will talk about results excluding DBA. Global Markets generated revenue of $4.4 billion and earned $1.3 billion, producing a return on allocated capital of 14%. Earnings were up 35% as revenue growth outpaced expense increases from higher revenue-led costs and continued technology investments. Sales and trading grew 7% versus Q2 '17 to $3.6 billion. Our equity business led the improvement with revenue of $1.3 billion, up 17% year over year. The equities business benefited from increases in client financing activity, reflecting investments made in the business over the past 18 months. Equity derivatives also benefited from increased client activity driven by volatility in financial markets. Fixed sales in trading of $2.3 billion increased 2%. In general, improved performance across macro-related products was partially offset by weakness in credit products.

On Slide 21, we show All Other, which reported a net loss of $247 million. This is an improvement from Q2 '17 of $98 million. All the selected items reviewed at the start of this presentation except DBA in Global Markets were recorded in All Other and therefore impacted both revenue and expense comparisons. If you remember the two items in Q2 '18, the TruPS and the gain from the sale of non-core mortgages netted to a negative $160 million, while the sale of U.K. card increased revenue in Q2 '17 by nearly $800 million. This nearly $1 billion year-over-year swing drove the $1.2 billion change in revenue.

Non-interest expense improved $760 million year over year and includes the Q2 '17 data center impairment charge as well as broad improvements across other expenses. Remember, when comparing income tax expense between periods, the tax expense in Q2 '17 included the nearly $700 million tax impact of the U.K. card sale, which offset the revenue benefit. Okay. Let me turn it back to Brian for a couple of closing comments before we open it up for Q&A.

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Paul. Just a couple thoughts to close, and then we'll take your questions. We continue to operate in a strong business environment led by consumer health, corporate profits, and a view of growth in the future. We've performed well in this environment and feel we are getting our fair share of the business. We continued to drive strong operating leverage for the 14th quarter in a row, and we grew, but we did it in a responsible manner, keeping our risk in check. Customer balances, earnings -- they all grew, as we cited earlier. Reported earnings which have been stronger and more consistent for many years now, and with that consistency and stability, we continue to produce that operating leverage, which plays to your benefit as shareholders. With that, let me turn it over for question and answer. Lee?

Questions and Answers:

Operator

And, at this time, if you'd like to ask a question, please press *1 on your touchtone telephone. If you find your questions have been asked and answered, you can remove yourself from the queue by pressing #. Once again, *1 on your touchtone phone. We'll take our first question from John McDonald with Bernstein. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

John McDonald -- Sanford C. Bernstein -- Analyst

Hey, guys. I wanted to ask about expenses, which came in a little better than expected this quarter. Brian, how should we think about the $500 million technology investment that you mentioned in the press release over the next few quarters? What's it mean for the target of approximately $53 billion expenses this year, and also, your ability to keep expenses flattish into '19 and '20, which you've previously talked about?

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, John. Along with a lot of other companies, we announced $1,000.00 bonuses, we announced a Share for Success plan, and then, on top of that, we've stepped up in investment and opportunities that we have. It's basically $75 million a quarter from now to the end of next year. We expect to manage a lot of that through -- but, it's self-funding, for lack of a better term -- by continuing to improve our expenses of what we'd seen. So, you should think of it in the low $53 billion range this quarter, keeping relatively flat, and we'll work to self-fund it, but in any event, it'll be $75 million a quarter in expenses, but when you add it all up, it's a major step in investing in our company due to the benefits from tax reform.

John McDonald -- Sanford C. Bernstein -- Analyst

Got it. And then, beyond this year, staying flattish, like you said, in that same ballpark is the goal for next year and possibly beyond as well?

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. The idea is for '19 and '20 -- we've told you on many occasions -- we expect to maintain flattish over the next couple years beyond '18.

John McDonald -- Sanford C. Bernstein -- Analyst

Okay. And, Paul, I wanted to ask about the card losses. What kind of pace of seasoning do you see in the credit card book over the next couple of quarters as that continues to grow?

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

Pace of seasoning... Look, I guess a couple of thoughts. 1). I think you have to remember that 2Q is sort of the highest quarter seasonally for card losses. We're sort of at 3.17%, and if you back out the hurricane, we're kind of 3.09%. So, I would expect that kind of a range as you look out the next couple of quarters, and that would reflect seasoning and loan growth in the card portfolio in that number.

John McDonald -- Sanford C. Bernstein -- Analyst

Okay, that's helpful. And then, more broadly, credit at the top of the house in terms of the run rate around charge-offs and provisions -- you also expect stability in the near term?

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. Look, in Q3, we expect credit to continue to perform well. We would expect provision to be roughly in line with net charge-offs, with reserve releases moderating over time as we continue to build allowance and support of loan growth, particularly in card. As we just talked about, our card portfolio seasoning -- and, I would expect an upward bias in NCOs, but again, remember, as you think about that, Q2 is the highest quarter in cards, usually, and I would also remind you that NCOs can be a little lumpy in commercial since we're at the bottom. But, everything -- when you look at all the metrics -- NPLs, 30-plus-day delinquencies, reservable credit size -- they are all going in the right direction, and they are really our leading indicators on the portfolio, and they are all pointing to a very strong environment and a very strong portfolio.

John McDonald -- Sanford C. Bernstein -- Analyst

Okay, that's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

We'll take our next question from Glenn Schorr with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Glenn Schorr -- Evercore ISI -- Managing Director

Hi. Thanks very much. So, I want to ask an NII question, and I saw the comments on ex Global Markets, the net interest yield being up 12 basis points, deposit betas are good, so the core business that we all focus on is good. I do want to talk about the actual pickup in wholesale funding cost because the yield up 49 basis points on Fed funds purchased is big -- I know it's a steepening of the short end -- but the question I have is is that something that we should expect to be with us throughout this rate hike cycle if the short end of the curve keeps steepening? Is it something that you're able to hedge? Because it does make a pretty big difference in NII.

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

Are you talking about the increase in the cost of our long-term debt quarter over quarter?

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

No, Fed funds.

Glenn Schorr -- Evercore ISI -- Managing Director

Fed funds on the wholesale funding side. Page 9 of the supplement has the average balances.

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Just think of it -- it's a matched book, so it moves together pretty quickly due to the fact it's all short term, both on the liability side, and then, they're long assets, but they price up as the curve moves. But, there's some stuff in the second quarter that we usually have there that is the dividend transactions and things like that which affect it, so I'd pay attention to it. Next quarter, you might see it settle in a little bit more like it traditionally does.

Glenn Schorr -- Evercore ISI -- Managing Director

Okay, that's good, because the flattening out on total net interest income is really that as opposed to the core business. That's why it's more important than usual now.

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yup.

Glenn Schorr -- Evercore ISI -- Managing Director

Okay. And then, just one question on advisory. Year to date, you guys have lagged peers some. I don't know if you feel that's a couple of big fields or a sector or two that you want to deepen coverage in. Just curious to get your thoughts on advisory.

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

The M&A advisory fees -- I think it is. Sometimes you get the right side of a deal, sometimes you get the wrong side of a deal, sometimes you're not in a deal, but even though we performed solidly in line with the fee pools and stuff year over year, we know we can do a better job there, and the team is working on it. And so, we had a record quarter in the second quarter last year, and so, the $1.4 billion-ish level is more in line with second quarters across time, but the team knows they can do a better job, and they're after it.

Glenn Schorr -- Evercore ISI -- Managing Director

All right, thank you.

Operator

We'll take our next question from Jim Mitchell with Buckingham Research. Please go ahead.

Jim Mitchell -- Buckingham Research -- Analyst

Hey, good morning. Maybe just talk a little bit about loan growth and what you're seeing. Obviously, the H8 data has been showing signs of life. Are you seeing that as well, and how do you think about that going forward in terms of your outlook for loan growth?

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

First off, I guess our perspective is customers are optimistic given tax reform, the economy is strong, and confidence feels high. So, customers are going to react differently to those factors -- near-term, some may pay down debt from tax savings or repatriation, but some are going to invest and borrow, and in large corporates, growth in any one quarter could bounce around a little depending on acquisition financing.

So, having said all that, though, our near-term expectation on loan growth remains unchanged. We still expect total loan growth to be low single digits. At the top of the house, if you exclude the headwinds from the runoff of the non-core mortgage book and All Other, growth within the business segments should be mid-single digits. And, I would also note in the slide deck, year-over-year growth has been relatively consistent now over the past couple of years. If you look at the different categories -- you want a little bit more color -- we anticipate modest growth in consumer loans. On card, we've seen mid-single-digit year-over-year growth, which has modestly increased over the past couple of quarters.

With respect to consumer real estate, originations are solid and balances are growing well, but there are headwinds continuing from the runoff of the non-core portfolio, and remember, we're booking 90% of our mortgages now on the balance sheet. I mentioned in the remarks that we expect auto growth to be flat to down as we focus on organic growth and rely less on third-party, and note that in all of these categories, we're very focused and remain focused on prime and super-prime.

Jim Mitchell -- Buckingham Research -- Analyst

So, you're not seeing any real acceleration yet?

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

I wouldn't say we've seen acceleration. I think it's been consistent growth. We have a pretty diverse set of clients that we serve, and in any one quarter, one may accelerate more than the other. If you look at this quarter, we saw really good growth in small business, we saw good growth in structured lending and GWIM, so in any quarter, we might see growth, but it's always seemed to average out at that mid-single-digit level.

Jim Mitchell -- Buckingham Research -- Analyst

Okay, and in that context, as we think about deposit growth slowing -- I don't know if it's a large impact from the TruPS and your rate sensitivity -- how do we think about NII growth going forward given the implied curve today?

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

Look, we will clearly benefit from the June rate hike. Q3 is going to have an extra day. We're also going to benefit from expected loan and deposit growth. But, these benefits are going to be offset by rate increases and deposits. As you know, we've been increasing rates in GWIM and Global Banking. The issue is we just don't know when we will increase in Consumer. It's going to depend on the competitive environment. So, it's probably a little misleading for me to give all of you some sort of numerical guidance, as we just don't know the timing of any increase in Consumer. Having said that, year over year, we're up $1 billion in the first half.

Jim Mitchell -- Buckingham Research -- Analyst

Okay, fair enough. Thanks.

Operator

We'll go next to Betsy Graseck with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Betsy Graseck -- Morgan Stanley -- Managing Director

Hi, good morning.

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Good morning.

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

Good morning, Betsy.

Betsy Graseck -- Morgan Stanley -- Managing Director

A couple questions. One is on deposit betas and getting a little bit more color there. I know you mentioned in the prepared remarks the overall deposit beta. Can you give us a sense as to where you think you are in the commercial, the wealth, the consumer buckets? I'm just trying to get an understanding of which buckets are higher than others and do you see an acceleration in any of these specific buckets from here?

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I think the customer base has performed very differently depending on what the cash is used for. If it's transactional cash, whether it's a consumer, whether it's a wealth customer, whether it's a company, they're using that money, it's in the flow, and therefore, the rate side of it is not as important as if you're paying for service on the commercial side or the consumer side -- the cash flow getting out of the household. If you look at it on the investment side, obviously, all segments -- when they had the excess cash that they don't need to conduct their daily business -- lose.

And so, if you look at our pricing strategies across businesses that Paul talked about earlier, you see them differentiated not only by business, but also by markets and submarkets within business. And so, if you look at the powerful engine and the deposits of $1.3 trillion, Consumer is nearly $680 billion of it, and of that, $300 billion plus is checking, which moves very slowly because it's transactional. The good news in Consumer is we've grown numbers of checking accounts for the first time in the last six or eight quarters consistently due to all the repositioning we're doing with accounts, and the average balance has gone up, and they're all checking, so that is very beneficial for us going forward.

So, without getting into all the numbers -- and, Paul can hit that -- you just have to think of philosophically, half that balance in Consumer is checking and isn't going to move much, and the rest of it is money market and will move as the market moves and the competition moves. We've been able to maintain discipline on that side and generate another $30-odd billion of year-on-year deposit growth, which is pretty good, and that's all core market share gains because we're not doing CDs and other stuff. And then, on the institutional and corporate side, we've moved it, and Paul gave you some of the statistics. On the commercial side, obviously, the highest in moves fastest, and we've been able to maintain growth and balances while still maintaining discipline on price.

Betsy Graseck -- Morgan Stanley -- Managing Director

Okay. And, you spoke to the [inaudible] side growing nicely. What about on the commercial side? Are you seeing a shift from NIB to fees, or are you holding your NIB in the commercial group?

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

Well, most of the deposit growth in Global Banking has been in interest-bearing deposits, so we are definitely seeing a shift there from non-interest-bearing to interest-bearing.

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

But, it's very different by business. So, in the business banking segment, it's 5 to 1 non-interest-bearing to interest-bearing, and when you get to corporate, it's more interest-bearing than non-interest-bearing, so again, it differs by the type of customer it is, too.

Betsy Graseck -- Morgan Stanley -- Managing Director

Okay, but I guess part of the point you're making is that that's in the run rate already.

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, and the point is that you'll see -- to go back since the tightening started in '15 and think about the global scheme of things, you can see that tightening moves across that, you've seen what's happened with the deposit rates. They'll continue to move, but you've backed out and played through it all, you still see the asset sensitivity at just under $3 billion for a 100-basis-point rise, 70% is in the short term, and that takes all the stuff we're talking about and puts it into the forward curve assumption.

Betsy Graseck -- Morgan Stanley -- Managing Director

And, the checking accounts that you're growing on the consumer side -- do you see that more in your branch expansion areas, or is that more in your legacy -- for lack of a better word -- legacy footprint?

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

It has to be in the legacy because the expansion footprint is so small. So, when you think about it, it's digital sales, it's in the legacy footprint, it's deeper relationship management, but we've grown those checking account numbers at the same time the primary percentage has kept moving upward. Now, we're at 91% of the primary checking account in the household, so we're growing it and the average balance has grown also. So, think about that dynamic -- a higher average balance, primary households going up, and growing the number, and it has to be in the core franchise. There's not enough new branches out there to make a difference when you have the size of franchise we do.

Betsy Graseck -- Morgan Stanley -- Managing Director

Got it. And then, lastly, can you remind on the pace of the branch expansion over the next year or two? I know it's a four-year forward that you announced, but just trying to understand rate of change here over the next year or two.

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

About 500 over the next four years. And so, you saw some of that dynamic this quarter. It picks up because literally, just getting locations set and getting a build-out, so you'll see a pick over the next several quarters, but it takes about four years to get through them all. 13 this quarter, to give you a sense, so it'll pick up as we move forward.

Betsy Graseck -- Morgan Stanley -- Managing Director

Got it, OK. Thanks, Brian.

Operator

We'll go next to Gerard Cassidy with RBC. Please go ahead. Gerard, check your mute function, please, on your phone. Then, we'll go next to Ken Usdin with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Ken Usdin -- Jefferies and Co. -- Managing Director

Thanks. Good morning. If I could follow up a little bit more on that lower right part of the funding side -- Paul, can you walk us through the benefits you expect from trust-preferred redemption, and if you are going to refinance that, and what would be the net benefit as you think about that and forward NII?

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

Sure. So, just a reminder for everybody, these securities are becoming just expensive funding at this point. I think you all know they no longer count as capital under the fully phased-in rules, nor do they count as TLAC. So, while there are a number of things to think about if you're going to call them, the primary focus was on the one-timer from loss relative to the ongoing lower interest expense that you're alluding to. So, if you think about that ongoing benefit, we think these savings are going to be roughly $140 million per year or $35 million-ish per quarter.

Ken Usdin -- Jefferies and Co. -- Managing Director

And, do you have any need to refinance, or is that a net of any incremental funding as a swap, or is it going to be a net nice benefit?

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

That assumes we're refinancing.

Ken Usdin -- Jefferies and Co. -- Managing Director

That's a net, OK.

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

But, again, to be clear here, we're not refinancing with preferreds, we're refinancing with bank debt or unsecured senior debt.

Ken Usdin -- Jefferies and Co. -- Managing Director

That's what I meant, just the replacement financing for getting rid of the higher-cost TruPS.

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. That estimate I gave you assumes we refinance in an efficient way.

Ken Usdin -- Jefferies and Co. -- Managing Director

Okay. And then, also, you mentioned the market impact on long-term debt. Did we see any of that 30/90-day disconnect still come through on average this quarter, and do you expect that to get better as we go forward from here?

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, we did see it this quarter. There was a quarter-over-quarter increase in long-term debt yields. I think they were up around 38 basis points, and that's driven by the spot increase in three-month LIBOR from January to April, as most of our debt is swapped to floating and resets in the first month of the quarter, so it's about what the rates are at that moment in terms of understanding the increase in the cost of the debt. Look, we're thinking about that, we're working on different ways that we can align what happens on our loans, which are mostly once-a-month LIBOR too. What happens on our liabilities is mostly a two-month LIBOR, so, more to come on that.

Ken Usdin -- Jefferies and Co. -- Managing Director

Okay, because that was going to be my final question. What can you do to arrest the increase -- to Glenn's point before -- of those three bottom lines on the lower right side of the liability side, which are moving far faster than any deposit beta?

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

Yup.

Ken Usdin -- Jefferies and Co. -- Managing Director

Okay, so, we'll wait and see. Thanks, Paul.

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, we're working on that.

Operator

We'll go next to Mike Mayo with Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead.

Mike Mayo -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

Hi. You said the average checking account size is up. It's gone from what to what?

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

It depends upon the time frame, but it's moved up over the last three or four years, Mike, from...an average size of -- so, if you want to go from '14, it's gone from $5,000.00 to $7,500.00. In the last year, it's gone from $7,000.00 to $7,500.00.

Mike Mayo -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

Okay. So, does that help keep the deposit betas lower for longer? If you were to offer 1% less in interest -- so, what are we talking about here, $75.00 a year? And, in turn for that $75.00, someone might give up -- they get all the mobile banking, and online checking, and everything else. Is that how we should think about it?

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I think there's lots of trade-offs consumers make, but this is the money going in and out of their checking account on a given day, so if you're growing it, the average balance of $7,500.00 -- between our preferred and our retail segment, they'd be different each segment, but this is money in motion, for lack of a better term, Mike, as you're thinking about it. So, to move it around very carefully has implications if they don't keep the balances there and a payment hits or something like that. So, it's pretty sticky in terms of balances. But, the key is when you think about the consumer overall, as a percentage of total consumer deposits, it's nearing half of that. And so, in checking -- either interest-bearing checking, which is low-cost, or non-interest-bearing -- that's the key. That's what's driving the checking growth. It's not coming from CDs or other types of high-cost deposits -- driving the total deposit growth.

Mike Mayo -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

And then, Consumer Banking efficiency ratio of 48% -- I'm not sure if that's the lowest in history, but maybe that's good news/bad news. That was our forecast for you to hit three years from now, and you're here in the second quarter, so is that front-loaded? Should we expect that to stay at 48%, or can you improve a lot more, and if so, where?

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Look, we never -- Mike, as you know, we don't sit there and say, "48% is great and let's stop." We say, "How do you improve the operating effectiveness?" And so, I think if you look at that, they'll continue to work to improve it. They've done it as they generate more NII, which drives their business model, as you're well aware. A little bit of that on the same expense base makes a heck of a turn, and if you think about it, 850 basis points of operating leverage year-over-year matched quarter is pretty effective.

So, it's a combination of all those investments I talked about earlier coming true and the efficiency embedded in that, a combination of more sales digital and efficiency embedded in the sales process because this 48% counts everything, and a combination of continuing to grow checking accounts and the deposit balances, which are the highest potential revenue growth product for them in the short term with a big business like that. You've got to remember that business made $2.8 billion after tax this quarter, which makes it one of the biggest companies in America.

Mike Mayo -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

And then, one last follow-up. With all the digital banking expansion, are you looking to ramp up your marketing spend? Your marketing spend did not increase, at least in contrast to some of your peers, and the thought there is as you relate to customers less with branches, more digital, maybe you want more support from a marketing standpoint, but that, at least, is not showing through in your expense numbers.

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. What you see as marketing is a representation of bought marketing paid for, all that type of stuff, but you remember that the integration of the customer information, the platforms we use, is a very efficient way to market. And so, especially going for the stair step deepening on our own clients, we know what we know about the clients, and the messages that go out to the branches to set up calls with Brian Moynihan because he has a need, et cetera, are driving it. That's not expensive and it's not necessarily what people see in the marketing line item. It comes through the talent and teammates we have in our data information group, which is thousands of teammates that work on this every day, so it's more in the personnel line than it is in the marketing line, Mike, if you see what I mean.

Mike Mayo -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

It's kind of geography, in one sense.

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. But, all told, I think it's about 35-40% of the sales transaction initiated by a marketing lead, for lack of a better term, driven by analytics into the branch system or into the digital experience.

Mike Mayo -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

All right, thank you.

Operator

And, we'll go next to Matt O'Connor with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Matt O'Connor -- Deutsche Bank -- Managing Director

Good morning.

Brian Moynihan -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Good morning, Matt. How are you?

Matt O'Connor -- Deutsche Bank -- Managing Director

Good, thank you. So, just circling back on net interest income, to think about the outlook, it seems like there's some positives in the sense of the lower debt costs and some of the things you alluded to. Obviously, there's also expectations that deposit betas pick up. When we put it all together -- and, if you care to provide some more detailed guidance on the net interest income outlook, that might be helpful.

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

Look, I guess the best guidance I can give you is our asset sensitivity, which, again, is $2.8 billion, or a 100-basis point move, with 70% of that on the short end, and as you know, that modeling includes a 50% pass-through rate. So, as I said before, we have some nice tailwinds in this quarter, and going into year-end, we've got the rate hike, we've got the extra day, and we're going to see loan deposit growth. But, that's going to be offset by whatever happens on the deposit side. Again, the best guidance I can give you is to look at our asset sensitivity.

Matt O'Connor -- Deutsche Bank -- Managing Director

Okay. I guess the asset sensitivity -- you've had rates move up more than expected the last few quarters, and obviously, there's some one-offs in the net interest income, but it hasn't been a very good guide for the last few quarters. Net II has been relatively flat, and obviously, rates have been quite favorable.

Paul M. Donofrio -- Chief Financial Officer

Look, we've grown quarter over quarter $660 million in the first half of the year. I think it's $1.2 billion on a GAAP basis. I'm not going to sit here and tell you to double that because we just don't know what's going to happ

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